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Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:39 pm
by stripesincarolina
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:04 pm
stripesincarolina wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:36 pm
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:32 am
You answered your self with the first word "twitter". Twitter isn't reality, Higgins isn't going to sit so stop worrying about that, see Le,veon Bell. Secondly neither of those guys that visited yesterday were long term answers at NT or RT. The Bengals have been making really good decisions in FA over the past years, there's an entire thread on it. We need to have a little faith and not get wrapped up in the emotion of the moment!
In business and making deals the person that wants it the most losses..
Meat, you are probably looking at $20mm-$30mm in guaranteed money if he plays under the tag and gets a career ending injury. He'll sit. Bank on it. He gets paid to sit and not get injured. 31 teams in the NFL would love to have him. He'll sit. Let me say that again from his agents perspective.....HE'LL SIT. Do you think Burrow would be playing right now without his guaranteed money?? No freaking way!! I vehemently disagree with these games, tactics, whatever you want to call them. But the bottom line is you sit for $20-$30mm and dont get injured. Its the world we live in.
I'd be willing to put money on it that he plays. He's not going to sit... You can write in all caps all you want it won't change the fact that he's going to play. The precedent has been set by Le'veon Bell, and we all know how that turned out.
Carson Palmer on line 2. He would like to have a word. Le'veon Bell sucked ass. He ran behind an unbelievable Oline. And if Higgins sits he will eventually get every dollar he might lose when another team comes begging. His agent is a total clown and will ultimately end up impacting this situation. If we could I'd bet a ribeye down at the Ponderosa Steakhouse but we'll have to call this one a gentleman's bet. I say this goes completely sideways on the Bengals and he threatens to sit as soon as draft week. He's already tossing out cryptic messages on social media.
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:56 pm
by Joe Bananas
stripesincarolina wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:39 pm
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:04 pm
stripesincarolina wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:36 pm
Meat, you are probably looking at $20mm-$30mm in guaranteed money if he plays under the tag and gets a career ending injury. He'll sit. Bank on it. He gets paid to sit and not get injured. 31 teams in the NFL would love to have him. He'll sit. Let me say that again from his agents perspective.....HE'LL SIT. Do you think Burrow would be playing right now without his guaranteed money?? No freaking way!! I vehemently disagree with these games, tactics, whatever you want to call them. But the bottom line is you sit for $20-$30mm and dont get injured. Its the world we live in.
I'd be willing to put money on it that he plays. He's not going to sit... You can write in all caps all you want it won't change the fact that he's going to play. The precedent has been set by Le'veon Bell, and we all know how that turned out.
Carson Palmer on line 2. He would like to have a word. Le'veon Bell sucked ass. He ran behind an unbelievable Oline. And if Higgins sits he will eventually get every dollar he might lose when another team comes begging. His agent is a total clown and will ultimately end up impacting this situation. If we could I'd bet a ribeye down at the Ponderosa Steakhouse but we'll have to call this one a gentleman's bet. I say this goes completely sideways on the Bengals and he threatens to sit as soon as draft week. He's already tossing out cryptic messages on social media.
Yes. Totally. His agent is doing all this. He's convinced Tee he can't get him 50 million or so guarenteed money if not more.
It's for from over. It'll get worse with him and his agent.
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:40 am
by Bengals1
Spotrac @spotrac
Updated Top 51 Cap Space
1. WSH, $63M
2. NE, $58M
3. TEN, $55M
4. PHI, $39M
5. CHI, $31.7M
6. DET, $31M
7. ARZ, $30M
8. CIN, $29.6M
9. LV, $29.5M
10. LAC, $29.1M
11. GB, $25M
12. LAR, $23.7M
13. IND, $23.2M
14. DEN, $21M
15. MIN, $19.3M
16. SEA, $19.2M
17. CAR, $19.1M
18. HOU, $19M
19. SF, $17.4M
20. BUF, $17.2M
21. NO, $16M
22. KC, $15.8M
23. JAX, $15M
24. BAL, $14M
25. PIT, $12M
26. NYG, $11M
27. CLE, $8.2M
28. TB, $8M
29. NYJ, $7.9M
30. MIA, $5M
31. ATL, $4.3M
32. DAL, $4M
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:14 am
by MeatHeadbengal
Joe Bananas wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:56 pm
stripesincarolina wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:39 pm
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:04 pm
I'd be willing to put money on it that he plays. He's not going to sit... You can write in all caps all you want it won't change the fact that he's going to play. The precedent has been set by Le'veon Bell, and we all know how that turned out.
Carson Palmer on line 2. He would like to have a word. Le'veon Bell sucked ass. He ran behind an unbelievable Oline. And if Higgins sits he will eventually get every dollar he might lose when another team comes begging. His agent is a total clown and will ultimately end up impacting this situation. If we could I'd bet a ribeye down at the Ponderosa Steakhouse but we'll have to call this one a gentleman's bet. I say this goes completely sideways on the Bengals and he threatens to sit as soon as draft week. He's already tossing out cryptic messages on social media.
Yes. Totally. His agent is doing all this. He's convinced Tee he can't get him 50 million or so guarenteed money if not more.
It's for from over. It'll get worse with him and his agent.
You ask anyone in the know that's around the organization they will all say he's going to play. Mind you we just went thru this with Bates, and his agent did the exact same thing. Too much emotion and not enough rational thought is going into this, not so much you JoeB but some fans are just being way too emotional about this FA period right now.
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 am
by Jmble
It's interesting that it will be a full week since open talking has begun and the guys that we brought it that we were all clamoring to sign still haven't signed with any team yet.
If I'm being honest, I'd much rather bring in Trent Brown for a potential Super Bowl run this year and maybe draft somebody than bring in a project at Right Tackle.
Anyway, here is PFF's list of the top 50 Free agents that remain unsigned.
1. T TRENT BROWN, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
2. EDGE CHASE YOUNG, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
3. G KEVIN ZEITLER, BALTIMORE RAVENS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
4. S JUSTIN SIMMONS, DENVER BRONCOS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
5. CB STEPHON GILMORE, DALLAS COWBOYS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
6. CB STEVEN NELSON, HOUSTON TEXANS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
7. C CONNOR WILLIAMS, MIAMI DOLPHINS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
8. EDGE JADEVEON CLOWNEY, BALTIMORE RAVENS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
9. T MEKHI BECTON, NEW YORK JETS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
10. G DALTON RISNER, MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
11. S JULIAN BLACKMON, INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
12. QB RYAN TANNEHILL, TENNESSEE TITANS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
13. WR ODELL BECKHAM JR., BALTIMORE RAVENS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
14. DI TEAIR TART, HOUSTON TEXANS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
15. WR TYLER BOYD, CINCINNATI BENGALS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
16. CB ADOREE' JACKSON, NEW YORK GIANTS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
17. DI CALAIS CAMPBELL, ATLANTA FALCONS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
18. WR MIKE WILLIAMS, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
19. EDGE CARL LAWSON, NEW YORK JETS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
20. EDGE MIKE DANNA, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
21. EDGE DEREK BARNETT, HOUSTON TEXANS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
22. WR D.J. CHARK, CAROLINA PANTHERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
23. T JOSH JONES, HOUSTON TEXANS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
24. WR MICHAEL THOMAS, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
25. WR JOSH REYNOLDS, DETROIT LIONS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
26. T DONOVAN SMITH, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
27. G GREG VAN ROTEN, LAS VEGAS RAIDERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
28. EDGE KYLE VAN NOY, BALTIMORE RAVENS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
29. RB J.K. DOBBINS, BALTIMORE RAVENS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
30. C EVAN BROWN, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
31. S TASHAUN GIPSON, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
32. T CAM FLEMING, DENVER BRONCOS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
33. EDGE BUD DUPREE, ATLANTA FALCONS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
34. S MIKE EDWARDS, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
35. CB MYLES BRYANT, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
36. S MICAH HYDE, BUFFALO BILLS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
37. DI SEBASTIAN JOSEPH-DAY, LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
38. EDGE YANNICK NGAKOUE, CHICAGO BEARS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
39. LB ZACH CUNNINGHAM, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
40. CB AHKELLO WITHERSPOON, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
41. T ANDRUS PEAT, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
42. EDGE ROMEO OKWARA, DETROIT LIONS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
43. S JAYRON KEARSE, DALLAS COWBOYS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
44. CB KRISTIAN FULTON, TENNESSEE TITANS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
45. WR MARQUEZ VALDES-SCANTLING, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
46. LB SHAQUILLE LEONARD, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
47. CB ROCK YA-SIN, BALTIMORE RAVENS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
48. T YOSH NIJMAN, GREEN BAY PACKERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
49. RB D'ONTA FOREMAN, CHICAGO BEARS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
50. EDGE MARKUS GOLDEN, PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Contract projection: Available in PFF's free agency rankings
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:59 am
by Joe Bananas
Some good names that would help this team!!
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:10 am
by MeatHeadbengal
Jmble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 am
If I'm being honest, I'd much rather bring in Trent Brown for a potential Super Bowl run this year and maybe draft somebody than bring in a project at Right Tackle.
I'm with you on this one. I would sacrifice DT for a Trent Brown, and then get DT in the draft.
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:26 am
by Joe Bananas
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:10 am
Jmble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 am
If I'm being honest, I'd much rather bring in Trent Brown for a potential Super Bowl run this year and maybe draft somebody than bring in a project at Right Tackle.
I'm with you on this one. I would sacrifice DT for a Trent Brown, and then get DT in the draft.
Yeah. Really not sold on Bectin. Seems like he had a lousy year or so. I mean 12 sacks or something giving up. Hell we have that now can't see where he would be an upgrade.
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:29 am
by Jmble
Joe Bananas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:26 am
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:10 am
Jmble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 am
If I'm being honest, I'd much rather bring in Trent Brown for a potential Super Bowl run this year and maybe draft somebody than bring in a project at Right Tackle.
I'm with you on this one. I would sacrifice DT for a Trent Brown, and then get DT in the draft.
Yeah. Really not sold on Bectin. Seems like he had a lousy year or so. I mean 12 sacks or something giving up. Hell we have that now can't see where he would be an upgrade.
He had an injury that kept him out pretty much all of 2022. In 2023 there was talk that he was angry they had him playing at Right Tackle and there was questions about his commitment on the field. He claims that he was only upset because playing Right Tackle had him putting all of his weight on the leg that he injured the previous year. I'm guessing it's a little bit of both. He played well before the injury though. It's certainly possible that a change of teams might wake him up, but if I'm choosing, I would rather have Brown.
Re: General Free Agency News & Chatter.
Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:49 pm
by Bengals1
MeatHeadbengal wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:10 am
Jmble wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:07 am
If I'm being honest, I'd much rather bring in Trent Brown for a potential Super Bowl run this year and maybe draft somebody than bring in a project at Right Tackle.
I'm with you on this one. I would sacrifice DT for a Trent Brown, and then get DT in the draft.
Agreed but I don't believe the Bengals think this way. Brown is only 30 which means he has several solid years still in him. Sign him then sign a RT at 18 or even in the 2nd round to be the long term answer.
But once again, I doubt the team sees it that way...